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    Malaysia dedicated server at
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    requests for 100mhz cpu..

    does pentium 3 support ?
    mine is 16gb..

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    requests for 100mhz cpu..

    does pentium 3 support ?
    mine is 16gb..
    Did you mean 16MB? I home-host some sites on one of Dell's cheapo PowerEdge (Xeon 2.13GHz, 2GB, far too much HDD) servers. When I switched it off recently (first time in 8 months) to vacuum all the furballs out of it, I switched the sites to a P3-233MHz with 160MB of memory, and an 8GB HDD, to test that my backups and recovery scripts worked. I went into an Internet cafe to check how the sites were, and could hardly tell the difference!

    Most web serving is very undemanding of CPU. Unless you've got a very busy site with very many simultaneous requests, it's not even that demanding of RAM or bandwidth: all it has to do is copy data from disk (or memory) to a network card and run the occasional script.

    The 100MHz in their sales plan might be a quota on their Virtual Machine management software, running on much faster hardware.
    Then again, maybe they do have a pile of P3s, and several phone lines! 100GB / month transfer is what Streamyx gives you, upstream. Down is about 150GB to 600GB. Don't give up on that P3 yet - you could resell it many, many times for RM150 / year!

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    did you recommend that P3 are reliable..
    or above..
    with choosen hosting company did
    really support little CPU megahertz..

    I wish to rebuild my P3 with 2 main processor..
    each is 100 mhz with 128MB RAM
    running with Vista windows..
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    Quote Originally Posted by canagdesigner
    did you recommend that P3 are reliable..
    No. They must be at least ten years old, I guess. They don't last forever, and if you run modern software on them, they'll be more stressed than they would be with old software, so if they work, it's good luck. If they stop working ... it's probably about time.
    I wish to rebuild my P3 with 2 main processor..
    Wow - like Perodua with two exhaust pipes?
    Some of those old dual processor mainboards can be quite ... experimental, can be difficult to get operating systems working properly on them.
    each is 100 mhz with 128MB RAM
    Good enough for a server - that's the kind of lowest spec I've run Slackware + Apache + MySQL + PHP on for development - it would serve WordPress well enough for a single user. You could even see a pretty XFCE desktop on that spec, but you'd have to wait - old machines aren't good with modern GUIs.
    running with Vista windows..
    Ahahahahaha that's a good one! I'm pretty sure you can install a V8 in a Perodua more easily!

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    Wow... I am surprised that you guys are still not educated about "Overselling".
    Exabytes is a good example of host who oversells massively.

    They promote big numbers of space and bandwidth but they do state in their TOS that you are only able to fully utilize all the resources given to you if and only if your sites complies with their TOS/AUP.

    In their TOS/AUP, they will limit you through many means (one of the example is the one faced by the OP above) so that you will not be able to use the space and bandwidth given to you.

    Don't forget they are cramming 300 accounts with 300GB space and bandwidth each into a server. Take a calculator and calculate, do you think it is possible for a server to have 90TB of space and 90TB of bandwidth? They are just hoping that you will not use much of the 300GB. If you do, you will easily get suspended by one of the TOS/AUP rules.

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    In that case, I don't really need intel xeon 3.8ghz
    damn expensive super faster ?
    there s no need, didn't you ??

    I only thought that oversells
    are keen on free web host that really
    creates money..also

    the oversellers could tend to pull their
    services long before
    the limits end..

    But in diffrent culture..
    we have to ensure the system
    is really support the online business..
    more longer..

    wasn't that more easier..
    Last edited by canagdesigner; 03-07-2008 at 07:31 PM.

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    Hello,

    Overselling is a very good business model but not that ethical.

    For example :

    1000 users purchase 300GB package at RM 300 price. The hosting company gain RM 300,000 revenue for that year. However, in 1000 users, 50 of them REALLY using the resouces allocated to them (with of course contribute to CPU usage). The hosting company will suspend them and refund the money.

    Rm 300 x 50 rejected users = Rm 15,000 loss

    Total : RM 300,000 - RM 15,000 = RM 285,000 revenue.

    This method is use to FILTER out IDLE customer and ACTIVE customers (like icalyn).

    Thank you,
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    ya mean temporary suspended those 50 rejected ?
    those cases might occured when
    running out of bandwith or cases like
    server been crash by traffic hits
    eg like too many apache loads on the server ???

    the solution is finding
    an alternative host that really well..
    that we can transfer it..

    or else, view like regular website, INTRANET
    I mean web on server..

    If your website is on Windows Server 2003,
    this should be hardened web server.
    running the Configure My Server wizard..
    and IS to be installed..

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    Hello,

    This issue has been discussed many times in webhostigntalk.com.

    Huge Overseller using this business model to pull out ALL potential clients in the market into their basket. From there, they can filter out those who use "extra resources".

    Of course, there are people who has 3 MB website, 4 emails, 1 Mysql tempted with the Multi-Super-Gigs promotion package.

    This is where your scale of quality vs quantity really tested

    To reach 300GB monthly, you are equivilent of using 1Mbps streamyx 24/7 for one whole month. To reach 300GB of webspace plus that amount of traffic, your website will use a handful of precious CPU resources ... It is hard to archive that level.

    Be smart, buy the BEST service with MINIMUM Price.

    If your website only use 100MB, then purchase that amount

    Remember, UPGRADE to larger package does not have any UPGRADE FEE.

    Thank you,
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    good idea..thanks..
    but somehow, not in malaysia,
    those with hosting offered bigger spaces
    are just lying away and
    telling that they really have that kinda' service..
    which they didn't...

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    As fivio says, estimate your requirements and find a package suitable for that at a reasonable price or according to your budget. Don't look for the largest space for the cheapest price.

    It is not only hosting companies to blame, it is also on the user side. Users should be more educated on such things and focus a bit more on quality and not just cheap prices.

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    I am agree with fivio..
    some time, I have to release my
    old idea..but linear, thanks for the advice..

    we have been decided the result of this thread...

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    Web Site Suspended by Exabytes?

    iCalvyn's blog pretty much self explained why his side was suspended by Exabytes:

    Look for Alternative Hosting | iCalvyn.com

    On June 26th, his web site traffic started to increase until a level which caused the server to become unstable.

    4600+ Visitors on that day.

    We had 2 options that time:

    a) Suspend his web site; other clients on the same server won't be affected.

    b) Leave his site continue running with the high traffic which keep on coming in, and ended up all server resources been utilized, other clients web site get affected.

    Ideally, we go with Option a.

    If you were hosted on the same server as IT Engineer's Blog - iCalvyn.com on June 26 and noticed that your site had been slowed down, obviously you will contact Exabytes to find out why. Exabytes would then told you that there was a web site with high traffic which caused the server to be unstable and they were monitoring and working on it. You would then hope actions to be taken on the web site which caused the server to become unstable so that everything will be back to normal.

    Web Host is always at the dilemma where:
    a) if web host suspend a web site which caused the server to be overloaded, the owner of the web site which got suspended will not happy.

    b) if web host didn't take action to make the server stable, some other clients on the server will not happy with the performance.

    c) if web host put only couple of domains per server and charge penny, the web host will be running out of business real soon.

    p/s: iCalvyn and other new web hosts out there, you will know what am I saying after couple of months you in web hosting business.

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    Over Selling?

    "Over Selling" is a term which used by web hosts who can't compete with their competitors to attack their competitors.

    today, HDD size goes up to 1TB (approx 1000GB). 1 server, we can easily fit in 6 x 1TB HDD. Do the math, we can easily have 6000GB of HDD storage.

    Is offering 300GB out of 6000GB consider over selling when you know that 99% of your clients utilised less than 1% of the storage you offered?

    As long as you don't exceed our max CPU, max RAM, and you don't put any illegal contents on our server, we will honour you the 300GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivio View Post
    Hello,

    Overselling is a very good business model but not that ethical.

    For example :

    1000 users purchase 300GB package at RM 300 price. The hosting company gain RM 300,000 revenue for that year. However, in 1000 users, 50 of them REALLY using the resouces allocated to them (with of course contribute to CPU usage). The hosting company will suspend them and refund the money.

    Rm 300 x 50 rejected users = Rm 15,000 loss

    Total : RM 300,000 - RM 15,000 = RM 285,000 revenue.

    This method is use to FILTER out IDLE customer and ACTIVE customers (like icalyn).

    Thank you,
    Oh ok, that's Fivio's business model?

    We don't practice that.

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