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    Question Comparison of VPS/DS in Malaysia?

    Anybody knows or has done a comparison for Virtual Private Servers and/or Dedicated Servers hosted in Malaysia, on features, support & pricing?

    Thank you much for any pointers, or suggestions etc.

    Primarily interested for media streaming purposes.
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    imo.. it depends on who's your target user..
    if it's local like asia and europe..
    then streaming should be ok for them if the site is hosted here in malaysia..
    but for us / canada users, they might have higher latency to view the media..
    i'm using vps at the moment, and users from us / canada always complaints on the high ping from there to here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ujai.org View Post
    imo.. it depends on who's your target user..
    if it's local like asia and europe..
    then streaming should be ok for them if the site is hosted here in malaysia..
    but for us / canada users, they might have higher latency to view the media..
    i'm using vps at the moment, and users from us / canada always complaints on the high ping from there to here..
    tq Ujai..

    yes, we're aware of that. but for the 1st server, for active development purpose, we'd like to utilize local live server. later on, to push for global market, we'd use US-based server, very likely, perhaps as a redundant mirror.

    mana tahu kalau ada local datacenters yg really good for foreign access. itu yg nak comparison tu...

    lagipun, hopefully with all the talks we've been hearing, there ought to be an on-going major upgrade for our international link. bila siap tak tau la. otherwise, forever our data business here in Malaysia will be in the dark for not being able to sell enough to outside the nation.
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    as far as i know.. there's no dc yang really good one for international access..
    due to the backbone we have atm i guess..

    maybe you can try uk servers for worldwide access..
    coz, it's in the middle of the world ?

    and yea.. i'm waiting for the "major" upgrade too..

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    maybe you check this site prohostplan.com. The server also can be customized

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominoappsys View Post
    maybe you check this site ***.com. The server also can be customized
    tq, but please read the topic carefully, ie. "server in Malaysia"
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    dominoappsys is a serial spammer in this forum, along with andyf and maybe even host.co.in

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    Still new here.

    From what I know and what I've tested/experienced, Netmyne Brickfields IDC and Jaring TPM IDC has good international access.

    These are my traceroute results from Fremont, CA, USA for Shinjiru at Brickfields and AiST at Jaring:

    -bash-3.2# traceroute shinjiru.com.my
    traceroute to shinjiru.com.my (124.217.224.61), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 router-f1.xxxx.net (74.82.x.x) 0.553 ms 0.505 ms 0.478 ms
    2 64.62.x.x (64.62.x.x) 1.423 ms 1.495 ms 2.380 ms
    3 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net (72.52.81.178) 2.358 ms 2.353 ms 2.333 ms
    4 216.218.192.234 (216.218.192.234) 2.292 ms 2.273 ms 2.249 ms
    5 po4-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net (202.147.0.33) 123.262 ms 123.258 ms 123.237 ms
    6 po13-0.gw2.sin1.asianetcom.net (202.147.32.89) 202.213 ms 202.562 ms 201.820 ms
    7 gi3-1-0.gw1.kul2.asianetcom.net (203.192.144.33) 206.722 ms 206.621 ms 206.598 ms
    8 GBT-0004.GW1.KUL2.asianetcom.net (202.147.33.154) 206.578 ms 206.559 ms 206.555 ms
    9 gi-0-0-0-0.cr-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (61.11.210.193) 206.464 ms 206.503 ms 206.485 ms
    10 gi-0-2.edge-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (61.11.211.188) 209.295 ms 209.277 ms 209.256 ms
    11 124.158.228.18 (124.158.228.18) 208.251 ms 208.234 ms 208.212 ms
    12 shinjiru.com.my (124.217.224.61) 206.347 ms 207.694 ms 206.740 ms


    -bash-3.2# traceroute aist.com.my
    traceroute to aist.com.my (202.190.180.204), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 router-f1.xxxx.net (74.82.x.x) 0.691 ms 0.640 ms 0.612 ms
    2 64.62.x.x (64.62.x.x) 3.671 ms 4.554 ms 4.549 ms
    3 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net (72.52.81.178) 12.547 ms 12.529 ms 12.509 ms
    4 216.218.192.234 (216.218.192.234) 1.375 ms 1.356 ms 1.351 ms
    5 po4-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net (202.147.0.33) 123.465 ms 123.460 ms 123.440 ms
    6 po13-0.gw2.sin1.asianetcom.net (202.147.32.89) 202.291 ms 202.592 ms 202.682 ms
    7 po3-0-3.gw3.kul1.asianetcom.net (202.147.48.149) 206.700 ms 206.603 ms 206.581 ms
    8 JRC-0003.GW3.KUL1.asianetcom.net (203.192.163.86) 213.448 ms 213.429 ms 213.440 ms
    9 te3-0-0.bkj1.jaring.my (61.6.10.13) 206.418 ms 206.420 ms 206.400 ms
    10 202.190.180.204 (202.190.180.204) 209.311 ms 209.293 ms 209.270 ms


    My traceroute result from Japan also gives almost the same lag for aist at Jaring, but shinjiru at brickfields gives half of that. (But, Jaring IDC always gives less hop than netmyne, in almost every traceroute. I can get around 100ms sometimes when it hop though different route (a provider in Hong Kong), not through asianet (singapore) in this result).

    I think, its not the server which make the delay, there's problem with the link... how it get connected to the data center. For link between Malaysia and the US, normally it goes through Singapore, to Hong Kong, to Japan, and then to San Jose in California. [I wonder why we have to go south to SIN first...].

    Kalau dah siap AAG (Asia-America Gateway) between Malaysia and California nanti, maybe delay between KL-CA tu boleh kurang bawah 100ms rasanya. AAG punya line tu lagi besar bandwidth dari yg ada between Japan-CA sekarang.

    But, for sure... viewing a webpage hosted in Malaysian IDC is always slow and tiring. Sometimes, I can't even access tm.net.my during peak hours in Malaysia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuhaimi View Post
    For link between Malaysia and the US, normally it goes through Singapore, to Hong Kong, to Japan, and then to San Jose in California. [I wonder why we have to go south to SIN first...].
    This depends on the ISP or DC links. For example, TM has direct links to US, Europe etc. It also depends on how the routing is done by the ISP or DCs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuhaimi View Post
    Still new here.

    From what I know and what I've tested/experienced, Netmyne Brickfields IDC and Jaring TPM IDC has good international access.

    These are my traceroute results from Fremont, CA, USA for Shinjiru at Brickfields and AiST at Jaring:

    -bash-3.2# traceroute shinjiru.com.my
    traceroute to shinjiru.com.my (124.217.224.61), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 router-f1.xxxx.net (74.82.x.x) 0.553 ms 0.505 ms 0.478 ms
    2 64.62.x.x (64.62.x.x) 1.423 ms 1.495 ms 2.380 ms
    3 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc2.he.net (72.52.81.178) 2.358 ms 2.353 ms 2.333 ms
    4 216.218.192.234 (216.218.192.234) 2.292 ms 2.273 ms 2.249 ms
    5 po4-0-0.cr1.nrt1.asianetcom.net (202.147.0.33) 123.262 ms 123.258 ms 123.237 ms
    6 po13-0.gw2.sin1.asianetcom.net (202.147.32.89) 202.213 ms 202.562 ms 201.820 ms
    7 gi3-1-0.gw1.kul2.asianetcom.net (203.192.144.33) 206.722 ms 206.621 ms 206.598 ms
    8 GBT-0004.GW1.KUL2.asianetcom.net (202.147.33.154) 206.578 ms 206.559 ms 206.555 ms
    9 gi-0-0-0-0.cr-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (61.11.210.193) 206.464 ms 206.503 ms 206.485 ms
    10 gi-0-2.edge-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net (61.11.211.188) 209.295 ms 209.277 ms 209.256 ms
    11 124.158.228.18 (124.158.228.18) 208.251 ms 208.234 ms 208.212 ms
    12 shinjiru.com.my (124.217.224.61) 206.347 ms 207.694 ms 206.740 ms
    Hi bro,

    I guess you have wrongly quoted on the Datacentre. 124.217.224.61 does not belong to Brickfields DC. It belongs to AIMS DC.

    Thank you.

    Kumaresh
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    Thank you Kumaresh for pointing my mistake. I'm pretty new here... and also pretty new in this field. Patutlah Shinjiru lagi laju bila test dari Jepun... duduk kat AIMS rupanya.

    Hmm... I checked traceroute for another hosts, probably in one of TM Net / Netmyne data center (Maybe their network administrators can give exact location in this thread after this). This is fiber speed from a data center in Fremont, California. Actual American/Canadian internet surfers on cable or ADSL connection will suffer more speed when accessing any of TM Net data center.

    Here's the result:

    -bash-3.2# traceroute mercumaya.net
    traceroute to mercumaya.net (202.75.55.220), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 router-f1.xxxx.net (74.82.x.x) 0.808 ms 0.748 ms 0.721 ms
    2 64.62.x.x (64.62.x.x) 1.644 ms 1.629 ms 1.606 ms
    3 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.pao1.he.net (72.52.92.66) 11.550 ms 12.495 ms 12.537 ms
    4 ge-2-2-1.paix.pao1.tm.net.my (198.32.176.26) 2.434 ms 2.467 ms 2.447 ms
    5 203.106.86.90 (203.106.86.90) 442.412 ms 219.94.9.165 (219.94.9.165) 371.409 ms 203.106.86.90 (203.106.86.90) 461.366 ms
    6 58.27.103.126 (58.27.103.126) 450.363 ms 219.93.174.81 (219.93.174.81) 369.620 ms 370.831 ms
    7 58.27.124.57 (58.27.124.57) 367.911 ms 367.892 ms 367.866 ms
    8 58.27.103.37 (58.27.103.37) 438.798 ms 58.27.113.34 (58.27.113.34) 450.760 ms 58.27.103.37 (58.27.103.37) 438.744 ms
    9 58.27.103.66 (58.27.103.66) 450.713 ms 438.711 ms *
    10 58.27.103.110 (58.27.103.110) 405.668 ms 210.187.142.1 (210.187.142.1) 298.636 ms 298.553 ms
    11 203.106.86.66 (203.106.86.66) 298.610 ms 298.574 ms 298.564 ms
    12 202.71.100.9 (202.71.100.9) 298.534 ms 300.027 ms 307.861 ms
    13 202.75.52.1 (202.75.52.1) 313.828 ms 293.838 ms 312.896 ms
    14 ip-202-75-55-220.mercumaya.net (202.75.55.220) 314.756 ms 290.724 ms 297.894 ms

    -bash-3.2# traceroute hivehost.net
    traceroute to hivehost.net (202.75.56.35), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 router-f1.xxxx.net (74.82.x.x) 0.760 ms 0.725 ms 0.701 ms
    2 64.62.x.x (64.62.x.x) 10.643 ms 10.646 ms 10.625 ms
    3 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.pao1.he.net (72.52.92.66) 1.578 ms 2.561 ms 2.542 ms
    4 ge-2-2-1.paix.pao1.tm.net.my (198.32.176.26) 2.521 ms 2.502 ms 2.487 ms
    5 * 203.106.86.90 (203.106.86.90) 451.538 ms 464.390 ms
    6 58.27.103.126 (58.27.103.126) 433.514 ms 448.795 ms 219.93.174.81 (219.93.174.81) 369.871 ms
    7 58.27.124.53 (58.27.124.53) 437.858 ms 437.785 ms 58.27.103.69 (58.27.103.69) 465.736 ms
    8 * 58.27.103.57 (58.27.103.57) 465.686 ms 453.640 ms
    9 58.27.103.66 (58.27.103.66) 465.722 ms * *
    10 210.187.143.1 (210.187.143.1) 300.516 ms 210.187.142.1 (210.187.142.1) 299.616 ms 210.187.143.1 (210.187.143.1) 300.800 ms
    11 219.93.151.107 (219.93.151.107) 280.985 ms 311.030 ms 203.106.86.66 (203.106.86.66) 298.860 ms
    12 202.71.100.9 (202.71.100.9) 311.850 ms 299.071 ms 297.983 ms
    13 202.75.52.3 (202.75.52.3) 311.949 ms 295.936 ms 295.920 ms
    14 202.71.96.125 (202.71.96.125) 446.867 ms 445.937 ms 445.981 ms
    15 202.71.96.44 (202.71.96.44) 378.259 ms 362.885 ms 359.845 ms
    16 central.hiveserv.com (202.75.56.35) 383.858 ms 359.782 ms 358.002 ms

    TM Net itself seems to have connection to Palo Alto Internet Exchange (PAIX) in California. That's good, but TM Net line itself is so slow! This is the first time I saw 300ms delay. In conclusion, maybe it's better to move your servers to AIMS or Jaring, your international clients will be happier I think.

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    You should try the test again later on. TM has been having international links routing problems recently. It is now being solved.

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    hi..

    Virtual Private Servers (VPS) normally is a virtual server shared with many users.. VPS gives you a environment of a Dedicated Server.. but the server resources are often limited..

    Dedicated Servers are whole servers which you solely utilize the server for your own use.. in terms of performance.. Dedicated Servers are better ... for Dedicated Servers, you could use shared bandwidth or Dedicated bandwidth..

    If you want to use for media streaming purpose.. best go for Dedicated Servers.. for better performance and better bandwidth..

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    Quote Originally Posted by durianruntuh View Post
    p/s : VPS/VDS Plan | Malaysia Affordable XEN Virtual Private Server (VPS) and Free Shared-Hosting look interesting but their not open up for new reg yet.
    Have anyone tested out their vps yet (glicx.net)? their package seems to be affordable. I've just bought a vps from another hosting provider, no budget to get extra vps at the moment. If you have experience with them, please share.

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