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    Cool Alexa.com

    So how many of you following the website rating from alexa.com? How accurate you think of the rating? My 1.5 month old website comming from top 3.8millionth to 700,000th.

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    to me it is NOT accurate at, the rating is based on how many visitor with alexa toolbar visited your site.....
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    not accurate really-really not accurate...how come only user with alexa tollbar can be count...we dunnu others..i think majority dont want to download such bar to tewak our browser...i hate it dunnu how about others..

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    I did installed the toolbar on my IE, althought the that XP is not my primary browsing machine I do fine it interesting when I go to some websites and it gives me its rating thus giving me some indication on how popular the website is, even it is not fully accurate. I think it gives a overview and did it pretty good job.

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    Hi hftey,

    Do you mind sharing how did your 1.5 month old website coming from top 3.8millionth to 700,000th. Is it attributable to downloading the toolbar?

    In my opinion, it may not be very accurate but at least, I use it to check the validity of the claims of certain sites. Some sites claimed to be around for 3-5 years but not listed in alexa - it gives me the hint that the website may be a cheat. What do you think?

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    I've been a user of Alexa for many years now, so, thought I'd give my comment

    IMO, Alexa's not accurate for sites that are traffic-ranked top over 100K or with users of less than 1000/month. Otherwise, it somehow represents some sort of credible performance measure, complemented with a detailed historical chart.

    Though, while the ranking might be correct for the highly top-ranked sites, the number of estimated visitors/reach or page views aren't likely to be correct due to sample limitation. Only site owners can verify this information by analyzing its own access logs (after deducting own's access and of robots).

    Since its inception in 1997, Alexa has grown tremendously with a worldwide userbase by the millions (over 10-million recorded downloads), nowadays which makes it one of the most accurate live, automated survey today. Keep in mind though that the demographics would be mostly Americans, Canadian, British, Chinese (China/HK), Japanese or South Korean** adult, PC OWNERS*** and users of Windows-based MSIE browser, with a decent percentage, website owners themselves. A high percentage would be Amazon.com's**** shoppers.

    To answer Fred's pondering: a million plus web users is a huge sample of any survey. Consider that most surveys only took a poll from several thousands people. Then, other rankings only take a result from well under 100K users.

    So, if you're making sites catering to mostly, for instance, Malaysia-only audience, university students or teenagers/newbies, you sites won't be ranked sufficiently high. The same also applies if you only serve you web pages thru SSL connection (ie. ecommerce sites).

    Well Ben, it is actually possible for a month-old or younger site gets boosted to even top 10K rank! I have one site that enjoyed that traffic during a particular time. Such cases can be either due to surprising popularity (events like Malaysian GP, Euro 2004, Olympic, War in Iraq, scandals and misc shocking news) or aggressive marketing.

    One way to be sure of genuiness of a particular site's rank is to analyze its historical chart (for up to two years). A constant line without unexplainable peaks shows accuracy. Otherwise, the rank could be due to forced popus or cheating (self-accessing) result. The chart is also a good indicator on how a particular site progresses in terms of popularity either growing or descending over a period of up to two years. That gives you a hint on what's hot and what's not at a particular time.

    With over 40 millions domains out there, getting a top-400K rank is a good achievement, ie. top 99-percentile. There are a number of Malaysian-produced sites that are ranked top-10K. Wanna help me list them?

    I'll start with JobStreet.com (bravo to the Penang-based fella I personally met in 95!), theStar.com.my and Cari.com.my -- all three which are pioneers since the early years of the Web.

    Notable: Several of EzerNet's sites (catering International audience) are also ranked decently high. A handful sites of local media conglomerates (not RTM though!) are ranked top under 100K too.

    (This gives you a hint that the most popular web activities by Malaysians, both in Malaysia and in foreign lands, are job-scouting, news-reading and searching. A high-rank approval highlights usefulness and high usability factor of such sites -- we need more similar database-driven ones!).

    With millions of ringgit spent on producing dozens of Malaysian-owned sites, you'd wonder why only so few can make it even to top-10K Malaysia BOLEH?


    ** 18+ in countries with among the highest number of Internet users
    *** not users at public places (ie, schools, workplaces, webcafes which happen to be where most Malaysians access the Net at, considering that only 20% Msian households are Internet-enabled, or 1% broadband-enabled).
    **** Amazon.com acquired Alexa in June 1999.
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    Try this

    If you got any problem, you can raise the issue at www.Complaints.com.my

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    use alexa booster hihii
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    See lcf website ranking:

    PageRank for www.liewcf.com = 5 / 10
    If the PR is 0, it could mean no such page in Google, or an actual PR of 0.

    Alexa traffic rank for liewcf.com = 854041
    A rough estimate of daily unique visitors based on this Alexa rank = 318
    www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=liewcf.com

    The external backlink count for this page in Yahoo = 708
    link:http://www.liewcf.com -site:www.liewcf.com

    Note: external backlink 708, most come from thread posted at webmastermalaysia.com

    Nice PR 5/10 - good PR for exchange link.

    just doing some research LCF. Don't be mad!

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    I don't think that alexa statistics are only taken from those who are using the Alexa Toolbar, it does not depend on the toolbar at all, it would be unwise to think that way. For example PR of any website is not determined by Google Toolbar either... so I think in that case Alexa stats are pretty accurate.

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    <<<<<<<
    Do you mind sharing how did your 1.5 month old website coming from top 3.8millionth to 700,000th. Is it attributable to downloading the toolbar?
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    Alexa gives unreliable traffic results;

    1. alexa ratings are heavily biased toward webmaster resources sites .... as the alexa tool is mainly used by webmasters - you would improve your alexa rating if you get more webmaster traffic. e.g. provide useful webmaster resources, implement a link exchange programme etc ....

    2. figures are distorted by small-time cheats ... downloading the alexa toolbar and clicking on your own website excessively.

    3. and figures are greatly distorted by users of "alexa enhancer" scripts ... search at google and you should find quite a few!

    The above are some of the reasons why the alexa traffic ratings are heavily biased in favour of certain types of sites.
    Last edited by spyder; 04-08-2004 at 08:05 PM.

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    i think in my opinion alexa isn't accurate at all. they claim that my site has 9.5 per million users. but i don't think i have that much.

    Furthermore, the ranking of my site varies, it shot up and drop down and out of 100kth. I jus don't understand how ranking could have so big diff everyday.

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    Originally posted by affiliate
    See lcf website ranking:

    PageRank for www.liewcf.com = 5 / 10
    If the PR is 0, it could mean no such page in Google, or an actual PR of 0.

    Alexa traffic rank for liewcf.com = 854041
    A rough estimate of daily unique visitors based on this Alexa rank = 318
    www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=liewcf.com

    The external backlink count for this page in Yahoo = 708
    link:http://www.liewcf.com -site:www.liewcf.com

    Note: external backlink 708, most come from thread posted at webmastermalaysia.com

    Nice PR 5/10 - good PR for exchange link.

    just doing some research LCF. Don't be mad!
    Thanks for the information. Just wonder why my site is choosen. LOL

    btw, according to my webserver web stats. The daily unique visitors to my site is around 1000. The alexa rank doesn't seem accurate.

    Link exchange? I am more interest in "ad space for rent"

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    Originally posted by ades
    I don't think that alexa statistics are only taken from those who are using the Alexa Toolbar, it does not depend on the toolbar at all, it would be unwise to think that way. For example PR of any website is not determined by Google Toolbar either... so I think in that case Alexa stats are pretty accurate.
    The fact is alexa only able to track via the toolbar, so it does depend on their toolbar although you think it is unwise.

    PR is a totally different algorithm, so cant really compare both of them. Alexa ranking does has it's usefullness, but not as lame as what normally ppl see it. If you ask 10 ppl, i believe at least 8 of them will the ranking is not accurate at all, and yes, it is not accurate but it can be used as a comparison tool for established sites.
    Frederick Goh - www.frederickgoh.com

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