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    Question search engine question...

    There was once adding a site in major search engines was free...now you have to pay.

    Agak-agak...where can I find a company in KL that can add a site
    for my sites? Anyone can help me?

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    jika major search engine itu yahoo/google/lycos..
    saya tidak merasakan ada orang yang bleh bubuh dalam tuh. atau kompeni yang mengambil upah untuk disenaraikan

    sebaliknya.. contohnya google / yahoo.. mereka adalah berasaskan kepada direktory / keyword/ bla bla..
    cube study bagaimana Search engine menjalankan tugas..
    dengan itu ko akan tahu camner nak bagi web ko tersenarai di major search engine..

    btw.. cara mudah.. ko hubungi pihak yahoo atau google sendiri

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    Hello BanditLeader,

    Try

    http://www.google.com/addurl.html
    http://asia.yahoo.com

    And don't forget other local search engines like cari.com.my


    Chan

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    emm... sumber yg aku tau dr bravenet... cuba 'memesrakan' segala kod + meta tag... kasik dia valid... pastu meta tag betul2 berkaitan ngan site... bab valid ni, gi valid le kat w3c tu... apa ntah urlnya... lupa lak

    BTW, btol ckp mysticmind & ksstudio tu!

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    try to read up search engines news online.

    Search engine watch is a good starting point.

    the company i work for offer Search Engine Optimisation for clients who signed up for it, though we don't advertise it online.

    Cheers!

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    I just read this from SitePro News this week issue:

    Article printed from SiteProNews: http://www.sitepronews.com
    HTML version available at: http://www.sitepronews.com/archives.html

    Overcoming *Search Engine Paralysis*
    by Dan Thies ©Copyright 2003

    Many do-it-yourself webmasters and online entrepreneurs
    have been led to believe that search engine positioning
    is a black art, and that no mere amateur can hope to
    compete with the "experts." If you are among them, you're
    missing out on a great opportunity to drive free, targeted
    traffic to your website.

    There are only three steps you need to take, if you want
    to quickly increase your site's visibility in the search
    engines. The three steps are: positioning, optimization,
    and link building. In this short tutorial, I'll explain
    what's involved in each one, and show you just how easy it
    can be. If you can give me even 10 minutes of your time
    today, you'll be well on your way to top rankings.

    If there is one message I'd like to get across to you,
    it's "don't fear the search engines." Not everything that
    you have been told about them is true! If you would like to
    increase the amount of traffic flowing to your website,
    without spending a dime, I urge you to read this article
    with an open mind.

    Step 1: Keyword Research & Search Term Selection

    Let's start with a quick definition:
    "Search terms" are the words and phrases that people type
    into search engines. For example, if I go to Google.com and
    type in "pokemon cards," that's a search term.

    To get traffic from search engines, you need to know what
    people are searching for, and who you're competing against.
    This sounds very basic, but it's important. Search term
    selection really boils down to finding a balance between
    popularity, targeting, and competition.

    Realtors, for example, might be tempted when they discover
    how many people search for "real estate," and believe that
    this is a perfect set of keywords. That's a very popular
    search term, but unless you sell real estate all over the
    world, it's not specific enough to reach your customers.

    Some folks can come up with good, targeted search terms
    with nothing more than common sense, but I prefer to do my
    homework. The best way to do this on your own is with the
    Wordtracker service (http://www.wordtracker.com), which
    allows you to find popular search terms, and investigate
    the competition.

    If you aren't interested in doing it yourself, you can
    hire someone to do the research for you, and get a report
    back that tells you which search terms are the most
    popular, and which will be the easiest to compete for.

    Low-cost keyword research reports are available from SEO
    Research Labs (http://www.seoresearchlabs.com), and you can
    find any number of competing services by looking up
    "keyword research" on your favorite search engine.

    Step 2: Search Engine Optimization

    "Optimizing" simply means putting the keywords you've
    selected onto your web pages in the right places, with the
    right formatting. That's all it means. There's a great deal
    of misinformation about this subject, so let me set the
    record straight: optimizing is the easiest part of this
    process.

    How easy is it? Well, I can tell you 90% of what you need
    to know in just a few lines, and there's a good chance that
    you'll never need to learn the rest. Once you see what you
    can accomplish, though, you'll probably want to learn more.

    The first thing to understand is that you should only use
    1-2 search terms to optimize each page. Once you've
    selected a page to optimize, and the search terms you're
    going to use, all you have to do is put those words in the
    right places, and you're done.

    Where the search terms go:

    1. Your page's TITLE tag.
    2. Your "keywords" and "description" META tags.
    3. In a heading tag (H1, H2, or H3) near the top of the page.
    4. In the first paragraph of body text, and repeated 1-2 more
    times on the page.
    5. In the text of any links that point to the page.

    That's 90% of search engine optimization right there. The
    most important of these are #1, #3, and #4. Just try it, it
    works. My "Inside Out Marketing" site uses no META tags
    at all, and it gets traffic for hundreds of search terms
    every month.

    Step 3: Link Building & Link Popularity

    "Link building" simply means getting other websites to
    link to yours. If you aren't already working on this, you
    need to start. Even if you don't care about search engines,
    those links will bring in traffic on their own, and help
    you establish a credible reputation for your website.

    Link building is an important part of search engine
    positioning, because search engines look at these links as
    a "vote" for your website, and they will boost your
    rankings accordingly when other sites link to you.

    There are three simple ways to improve your site's "link
    popularity," and drive traffic at the same time:

    1. Submit your site to the major directories. Yahoo charges
    $299 a year for commercial sites, but there are several
    popular directories, including dmoz.org, goguides.org,
    and joeant.com, that will list your site for free.
    2. Trade links with related websites. You can help each
    other, and your visitors, by linking to other good
    websites.
    3. Look for other sites that have resource directories, and
    ask them to link to you. I like to look in the Open
    Directory (http://www.dmoz.org) to find related sites.

    Whatever you do, don't try to take "shortcuts" when it
    comes to building links. If you'd like to learn more about
    link building, try Linking 101 (http://www.linking101.com)
    and Linking Matters (http://www.linkingmatters.com).

    That's it! If you do these three simple things, your
    search engine rankings are sure to improve. Just remember
    that there are no shortcuts, and it's never a good idea to
    try to "trick" the search engines. The honest approach is
    easier, and much better for you and your visitors.

    ================================================== ==============
    Dan Thies is the author of "Search Engine Optimization
    Fast Start," (http://www.cannedbooks.com) a concise, step-
    by-step guide to search engine positioning for beginners.
    For more articles by Dan, visit "Inside Out Marketing"
    (http://www.insideoutmarketing.com).
    ================================================== ==============


    Copyright © 2002 Jayde Online, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
    SiteProNews is a registered service mark of Jayde Online, Inc.

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    emmm... nice article...

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    can someone show the step to add site to google.com?? I'm looking the way, but dunno how, please help. Thanks.

    Max.

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    Go to http://www.google.com/dirhp, search for the category that suits you, you will see "add a site" link there, just follow the instruction.

    Your site should be listed there in 2 to 6 weeks time.
    PenangHosting.com
    Putting Malaysians on the Web!

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    Thanks guys.. very informative articles there..

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    The best way to get your site listed in Google.com is by letting Googlebot find a link to it from another site already in Google's index (incidently, Google will not usually list a site at all unless at least one other site that Google knows about has a link to it).

    So, instead of going to Google's add URL page, what you want to do is look for a site you can get to link to you.

    The best sites to get links from are directories like Yahoo.com (paid), Open Directory, Joeant.com, etc. Unlike web search, directory submissions are reviewed by a human editor for inclusion. It's usually only quality sites that make it in, and so search engines like Google view sites listed in these directories as important and boosts their rank.

    Next best are links from popular sites on a topic related to that of your own website. These will also help increase your ranking somewhat, although to a much lesser degree.

    Googlebot visits popular, high ranking sites very regularly, with the result that your new site can be in the index within a few days of the link going up (I just got one added in two days, although that's partly lucky timing - it's not usually quite that fast!).

    The Google Directory (NOT the same as Google search) gets it's results from the Open Directory Project (updated periodically), so you may as well go straight there: http://dmoz.org/add.html

    For anyone that doesn't know, Dan Thies is one of the top pros in the biz (I reviewed his book last year http://www.nowsell.com/bb/to.cgi?l=f.seofast and would say it's essential reading for anyone new to SEO). His advice in the article below is spot-on as usual. Read it carefully.

    One thing Dan perhaps didn't emphasize enough though, is that choosing the right keywords to target is CRUCIAL to your success with the search engines. To put it bluntly, if you get that bit wrong you're wasting your time.

    Hope that helps!

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    Some of the free submission that i used to use to submit my sites, you can take a look at that. only need less than 30 min, but worth the effort.

    http://www.sgwebmasterforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=303
    Frederick Goh - www.frederickgoh.com

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    Robert Woodhead's http://SelfPromotion.com is the best resource on the Net for general submissions. Not only will you save loads of time, if you're new to all this you'll learn a lot too.

    Google in particular however prefers to find you itself. And neither Google nor the various Inktomi powered engines place much importance on adding user submitted URL's to their index. Still, there are many other valuable submissions Rob's site can help you with.

    Hope that helps!

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    Yahoo is comming out with her own engine, so do keep an eye on her.
    Frederick Goh - www.frederickgoh.com

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    It's out already ... the switch was on Feb 14th if I remember correctly. Yahoo's paid inclusion program has also been launched (that didn't take them long, huh? )

    Yahoo will index pages up to five times larger than Google (500k vs 101k), and is listing considerably more competing pages in its results, although it's not clear what that means as yet, since they probably don't have a larger index than Google.

    It appears meta tags and on page keyword relevance may carry a little more weight than with Google, and apparently Yahoo are applying some of their email spam filtering techniques to improve the search results. However, overall there doesn't seem to be any major shake-up in the top results yet, although I suspect yahoo is being cautious and there will be a fair bit of tweaking over the coming months.

    Microsoft has also launched the new MSN search engine in beta.

    So it seems it's now a three horse race, and the Google crown may soon be slipping.

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